tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412223823984646516.post5260019820764169091..comments2022-03-25T01:42:31.175-07:00Comments on Baseball Eras Blog: Forgiving Baseball's Scapegoats: Steve BartmanBaseball Eras Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14330284249952707771noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412223823984646516.post-4841427051513496422013-07-22T21:18:53.726-07:002013-07-22T21:18:53.726-07:00I think you and I will have to disagree on this on...I think you and I will have to disagree on this one. The Bartman ball is nothing but a foul ball. We are making the assumption that even if Bartman doesn't touch the ball that Alou makes the catch and controls it after hitting the brick wall. It's a tough play with or without fans. Baseball Eras Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14330284249952707771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412223823984646516.post-56517506082970929062013-07-22T06:24:24.900-07:002013-07-22T06:24:24.900-07:00even before i read this post, i had known about so...even before i read this post, i had known about some of the chances the cubs had to end the inning. espn's great series "30 for 30" had an installment about steve bartman. so yes... the cubs could have ended the game and gone on to the world series. BUT, to me steve bartman still started the down fall. sure, it could have been any fan... but it happened to be this guy. regardless of who it was the cubs still had the bad luck. and what makes it worse is that steve bartman is such a nerd! with the headphones and that fuckin turtleneck... oh my god. what a dork. i dont mean to be mean, but somehow it makes it all so much more worse. imagine: the ball never gets touched by the fan... the cubs have one more out, the game is completely different. to me, that shows that the fan going for the ball made all the difference<br /><br />jthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412223823984646516.post-3962782247635274252013-07-19T23:48:41.556-07:002013-07-19T23:48:41.556-07:00To answer your trivia question: The Whales played ...To answer your trivia question: The Whales played in Wrigley field before it was called Wrigley field. Back then it was called Weeghmann field (thanks Google!)Hope at Disneyland https://www.blogger.com/profile/02370611078115502407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412223823984646516.post-79834157782651909542013-07-15T21:28:06.797-07:002013-07-15T21:28:06.797-07:00Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately Bartman has ...Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately Bartman has become the center of Cubs fans memories. Fortunately for the players most people have ignored the other mistakes.Baseball Eras Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14330284249952707771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412223823984646516.post-38388510128752155082013-07-15T18:32:42.192-07:002013-07-15T18:32:42.192-07:00The funny thing is, is that I remember Steve Bartm...The funny thing is, is that I remember Steve Bartman's name, but if I was on a game show and they asked me to name anyone else involved in that series, I wouldn't know! lol You're right though - it is instinctual to reach for a ball if it's coming toward you so not make that fan in the stands a scapegoat is totally unfair. Hope at Disneyland https://www.blogger.com/profile/02370611078115502407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412223823984646516.post-13528414798797151112013-07-14T10:14:30.776-07:002013-07-14T10:14:30.776-07:00The double play ball by Gonzalez is definitely the...The double play ball by Gonzalez is definitely the key to the inning. Even if he gets one out on the ground ball things may have been much different. Regardless, the Cubs had a 3 games to 1 lead in the series and a lead in game 7 so blaming Bartman for going for a foul ball is ludicrous.<br /><br />Harry Caray is definitely associated with the Cubs but spent quite a bit of time with the Cardinals. He started with the Cardinals in 1945 and was also an announcer for the American League St. Louis Browns in 1945 and 1946. He was fired after the 1969 season and was replaced by Jack Buck. He spent one year as an announcer for the Oakland Athletics but he could not get along with (depending on the version you hear) Charlie Finley, Monte Moore or both. He broadcast for the White Sox from 1971 until he moved to the Cubs broadcast booth in 1981.<br /><br />Sorry, the answer to this week's trivia question is incorrect. The White Sox were already playing in Comiskey Park by the time the stadium we now call Wrigley Field was built. The stadium names are good guesses as well because of the two businesses so closely associated with the team but league parks at that time were most often named after the owners of the teams such as Shibe Park in Philadelphia, Baker Bowl in Philadelphia, Ebbets Field in Brooklyn and Comiskey Park in Chicago. The stadium now known as Wrigley Field (named after the Cubs owner, Phil Wrigley the chewing gum magnate) was originally named for the owner of the team that originally played there.Baseball Eras Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14330284249952707771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412223823984646516.post-23642390878958802022013-07-14T09:25:35.882-07:002013-07-14T09:25:35.882-07:00i always thought the problem for this game was the...i always thought the problem for this game was the potential double play messed up by Alex Gonzalez. Maybe if there were 2 outs, Gonzalez would have been positioned differently and had an easier play for just a force out or a play at first. Still, maybe, maybe, maybe. The play should have been made.<br />On a side note, you mentioned Harry Carey being associated with the Cubs. As a teenager I use to listen to him broadcast the Cardinal games on KMOX from St. Louis. So when his name is mentioned I associate it with the Cardinals.<br />I thought it was always known as Wrigley Field. I am going to take a guess and say the White Sox played there the first 2 years and the stadium was known either as Sears Stadium or Tribune Park.<br /><br />TJDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com